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		<title>Comment on My Custom Chaparral by L. Colton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L. Colton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 04:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live at about 3500 feet in the Sierra Foothills on a southwest facing slope near Yosemite.    I may have found a native ground cover for a southwest facing slope with horrible soil, Sonoma Sage (Salvia sonomensis).  Sonoma sage grew on adjoining properties without water or any care.  A neighbor allowed me to dig up some plants (with roots.) 

From a few small plants,  I was able to propagate this in an drip irrigated area with good garden soil to the point that it spread vigorously then grew outside of the irrigated area and garden soil.  It spread so well, in the fall/winter, I was able to transplant many &quot;starts&quot; to a southwest facing slope along my driveway which has horrible soil, but possible very late afternoon shade.  (We may have several successive days of over 100 deg. F. temps. in the summer.)  The 2nd transplants are growing well on the southwest slope, though I don&#039;t irrigate it and the transplant method was &quot;harsh&quot;.  This is a tough and vigorous plant!  At this stage, I can recommend this plant, though I believe I will have to control it if it reaches better soil or irrigated areas.  

It appears to grow like ice plant, low and creeping.  It currently requires some weeding of exotic grasses and weeds, though over time it may fill in to reduce weeding.  The plants are prostrate with ~2&quot; long leaves that are a subtle grey green color which contrasts with beautiful blue flowers on short (1 foot or less) stalks that bloom in May.  The leaves have a typical sage odor more typical of Cleveland sage (Salvia clevelandii), than the native white sage (Salvia apiana) or the horticultural sage.  I haven&#039;t tried to use sonoma sage in recipes.

My one concern is that Sonoma sage might spread beyond the slopes where I want it and be difficult to control, like ice plant.   I seemed to be able to easily pull it out from the garden bed and the surrounding area when the soil was soft (winter), though it had branched significantly even underground.  

Does anyone have any experience with this plant in landscaping or the garden?  I would like to plant this very low ground hugging plants on other expansive steep south and southwest facing slopes, as it appears to grow in heavy clay soil, with full sun and no additional water.  (Due to the elevation, this area does get up to ~30 of snow/rain each year, but the ground dries like a brick as soon as the rains stops.)  

Any other suggestions for 1-6&quot; high native ground cover for full sun for expansive southwestern facing slopes?  I try not to use cultivars of natives, as I live in the chaparral which has many of these species.   Looking for a ground cover that should be here already.  I&#039;ve tried a local mat-like Ceanothus which I will call pine mat.   Bear clover grows here too, but too tall.  Silene sp. doesn&#039;t seem to form mats.  I like the height and cover of non-native Veronica sp and Thymus sp. ground covers as they are really really low and grow in full sun (with water and better soil), but would like to find a California native of the local Sierra Foothills.  I can irrigate with drip in some areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live at about 3500 feet in the Sierra Foothills on a southwest facing slope near Yosemite.    I may have found a native ground cover for a southwest facing slope with horrible soil, Sonoma Sage (Salvia sonomensis).  Sonoma sage grew on adjoining properties without water or any care.  A neighbor allowed me to dig up some plants (with roots.) </p>
<p>From a few small plants,  I was able to propagate this in an drip irrigated area with good garden soil to the point that it spread vigorously then grew outside of the irrigated area and garden soil.  It spread so well, in the fall/winter, I was able to transplant many &#8220;starts&#8221; to a southwest facing slope along my driveway which has horrible soil, but possible very late afternoon shade.  (We may have several successive days of over 100 deg. F. temps. in the summer.)  The 2nd transplants are growing well on the southwest slope, though I don&#8217;t irrigate it and the transplant method was &#8220;harsh&#8221;.  This is a tough and vigorous plant!  At this stage, I can recommend this plant, though I believe I will have to control it if it reaches better soil or irrigated areas.  </p>
<p>It appears to grow like ice plant, low and creeping.  It currently requires some weeding of exotic grasses and weeds, though over time it may fill in to reduce weeding.  The plants are prostrate with ~2&#8243; long leaves that are a subtle grey green color which contrasts with beautiful blue flowers on short (1 foot or less) stalks that bloom in May.  The leaves have a typical sage odor more typical of Cleveland sage (Salvia clevelandii), than the native white sage (Salvia apiana) or the horticultural sage.  I haven&#8217;t tried to use sonoma sage in recipes.</p>
<p>My one concern is that Sonoma sage might spread beyond the slopes where I want it and be difficult to control, like ice plant.   I seemed to be able to easily pull it out from the garden bed and the surrounding area when the soil was soft (winter), though it had branched significantly even underground.  </p>
<p>Does anyone have any experience with this plant in landscaping or the garden?  I would like to plant this very low ground hugging plants on other expansive steep south and southwest facing slopes, as it appears to grow in heavy clay soil, with full sun and no additional water.  (Due to the elevation, this area does get up to ~30 of snow/rain each year, but the ground dries like a brick as soon as the rains stops.)  </p>
<p>Any other suggestions for 1-6&#8243; high native ground cover for full sun for expansive southwestern facing slopes?  I try not to use cultivars of natives, as I live in the chaparral which has many of these species.   Looking for a ground cover that should be here already.  I&#8217;ve tried a local mat-like Ceanothus which I will call pine mat.   Bear clover grows here too, but too tall.  Silene sp. doesn&#8217;t seem to form mats.  I like the height and cover of non-native Veronica sp and Thymus sp. ground covers as they are really really low and grow in full sun (with water and better soil), but would like to find a California native of the local Sierra Foothills.  I can irrigate with drip in some areas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on California Coffeeberry by Roger du Plessis</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/09/28/california-coffeeberry/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger du Plessis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 05:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I planted a Coffee Berry cultivar in my tiny yard in Irvine.  It gets full sun.  It is thriving and beautiful.  Next to it are a toyon and a fremontia, both doing well. However the ceonothus cultivar I put in needed a lot of water, ironically, and finally died.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I planted a Coffee Berry cultivar in my tiny yard in Irvine.  It gets full sun.  It is thriving and beautiful.  Next to it are a toyon and a fremontia, both doing well. However the ceonothus cultivar I put in needed a lot of water, ironically, and finally died.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Garden With Natives by Flowers by the Sea (@FBTScom)</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/01/26/why-garden-with-natives/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flowers by the Sea (@FBTScom)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post!  We are always trying to steer people to California natives.  Thanks for giving us more ammunition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  We are always trying to steer people to California natives.  Thanks for giving us more ammunition.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bee-friendly gardening by Building a Bee Garden &#124; SueloVitaSun</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/03/31/bee-friendly-gardening/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Building a Bee Garden &#124; SueloVitaSun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 06:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Fross, BArt O&#8217;Brien 3. http://nature.berkeley.edu/urbanbeegardens/list.html (UC Berkeley) 4. http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/03/31/bee-friendly-gardening/ (CA Native plant society) 5. http://www.biobees.com/ (where I got plans for the topbar and tbh [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fross, BArt O&#8217;Brien 3. <a href="http://nature.berkeley.edu/urbanbeegardens/list.html" rel="nofollow">http://nature.berkeley.edu/urbanbeegardens/list.html</a> (UC Berkeley) 4. <a href="http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/03/31/bee-friendly-gardening/" rel="nofollow">http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/03/31/bee-friendly-gardening/</a> (CA Native plant society) 5. <a href="http://www.biobees.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.biobees.com/</a> (where I got plans for the topbar and tbh [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Garden With Natives by John</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2010/01/26/why-garden-with-natives/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have some seeds of Wooly Blue Curls.  I understand that to germinate they need exposure to smoke treatment.  Does anyone have experience in germinating these?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some seeds of Wooly Blue Curls.  I understand that to germinate they need exposure to smoke treatment.  Does anyone have experience in germinating these?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Crooked Path to a Native Garden by Mark Roberts</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2012/12/20/a-crooked-path-to-a-native-garden/#comment-647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article.  Good insights.  Hard to imagine a garden in the middle of winter needing an irrigatioin system but the ground does dry out and a little help to establish newly planted plants is necessary.

Have fun with the garden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.  Good insights.  Hard to imagine a garden in the middle of winter needing an irrigatioin system but the ground does dry out and a little help to establish newly planted plants is necessary.</p>
<p>Have fun with the garden.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Crooked Path to a Native Garden by Norma Solarz</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2012/12/20/a-crooked-path-to-a-native-garden/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norma Solarz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for writing an eloquent and fun description of your attack on your  overgrown yard.  It gives me hope that someday I will be able to conquer the invasive weeds in my yard.  By the way, did you need a chiropractor after all?  I&#039;m looking forward to your next installments to find out....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing an eloquent and fun description of your attack on your  overgrown yard.  It gives me hope that someday I will be able to conquer the invasive weeds in my yard.  By the way, did you need a chiropractor after all?  I&#8217;m looking forward to your next installments to find out&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Crooked Path to a Native Garden by Rosie Piller</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2012/12/20/a-crooked-path-to-a-native-garden/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rosie Piller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what a beautiful description of a fascinating journey! Can&#039;t wait to see the sequel!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a beautiful description of a fascinating journey! Can&#8217;t wait to see the sequel!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Crooked Path to a Native Garden by R Macdonald (@r_macdonald)</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2012/12/20/a-crooked-path-to-a-native-garden/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Macdonald (@r_macdonald)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, this is inspirational.  Glad to learn of your success with cardboard. I&#039;m eagerly awaiting your next installment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is inspirational.  Glad to learn of your success with cardboard. I&#8217;m eagerly awaiting your next installment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Crooked Path to a Native Garden by Pamela</title>
		<link>http://grownatives.cnps.org/2012/12/20/a-crooked-path-to-a-native-garden/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope those books told you not to use drip irrigation on your natives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope those books told you not to use drip irrigation on your natives.</p>
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